Two days to go until the EU referendum but have you made up your mind yet? North Herts experts and politicians offer their last minute advice to voters

PUBLISHED: 13:09 21 June 2016 | UPDATED: 13:32 21 June 2016

European Parliament building, in Strasbourg

European Parliament building, in Strasbourg

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As the EU referendum campaign enters its final week, decision day is drawing ever closer – but have you made your mind up yet?

Leave or Remain? Only you can decide.Leave or Remain? Only you can decide.

We have sought out the views of experts, politicians and voters to see if there’s a clear picture emerging about which way the nation may go.

And while it’s no surprise to find that there are champions for both camps, what they have to say may help you make up your mind in the next few days.

In case you find the whole EU debate bewildering, we’ve summarised some of the key points put together by the Brexit and Remain campaigns:

The case for Brexit:

1) Britain could strike its own deal with the EU giving it access to the single market without being bound on its other laws.

2) Outside the EU Britain could strike up independent trade deals with countries like China, India and the US.

3) The EU’s Central Agricultural Policy (CAP) is wasteful and expensive.

4) There is too much bureaucracy in the EU and its laws regulate too many areas of our lives.

5) The EU is very expensive, costing Britain £20 billion in membership fees each year.

6) Inside the EU, Britain has no control over immigration from other EU member states

The case for Remain:

1) The EU is our biggest trading partner. Currently 45 per cent of our exports are to the EU, while 50 per cent of imports come from the EU.

2) The EU has introduced many directives which benefit workers’ rights in the UK. For example, the 48 hour week, four weeks of guaranteed parental leave and four weeks of annual leave.

3) Immigrants from the EU tend to be better educated than UK nationals – around 32 per cent have a degree, compared with 21 per cent of UK citizens. From an economic perspective, people moving over from the EU since 2000 have contributed 34 per cent more financially to the UK than they have cost us.

4) Many of the UK’s food standards come from the EU, meaning many potentially harmful additives are banned from food.

5) Around three million UK jobs are dependent on the EU.

Dr Nathan Jones, a former pupil at Letchworth’s Fearnhill School and now living in Baldock, has a doctorate in European politics from the University of Nottingham.

What does he make of the campaign so far? He said: “Brexit campaigners have repeatedly demanded that the debate on the EU referendum should be based on the facts.

“This stance is hypocritical, since they dismiss any facts which do not suit them, exploiting the lack of public knowledge about how the EU works to manufacture arguments based on fear.

“Vote Leave’s mantra is that the UK pays about £350 million per week or £55 million per day to the EU. This is misleading.

“All calculations of the EU budget must include the rebate and these figures do not. The annual net figure is the only accurate and reliable figure to use and £8.5 billion per year is the UK’s net contribution to the EU budget.

“Vote Leave claims that Turkey is soon going to join the EU. It is not. Turkey has to meet very strict criteria for its application to even be considered, and it has failed to achieve this objective for years. The recent deal between the EU and Turkey over immigration does not apply to the UK,. Turkish citizens cannot obtain visa free travel to the UK by means of this deal.

“Vote Leave is deceiving people over the impact of immigration on public services. The independent House of Commons library report, a study by the Full Fact organisation, and other academic studies show that immigrants from the European Economic Area – which includes all EU countries – make a positive net contribution to the British economy, and are less likely to claim benefits, use NHS services, or live in social housing, compared to British nationals.

“The choice comes down to voting for facts or fear. I urge you to choose pragmatic and relevant facts to make an informed decision, and to reject the deception, fear, and prejudice promoted by Vote Leave.”

Labour is campaigning for a ‘remain’ vote and Councillor Frank Radcliffe is the leader of the Labour group on North Herts District Council.

He said: “The concern for me is that if we leave we’ve got two million British people living abroad who are going to want our health care provision. As someone who has direct experience of the Lister Hospital recently, it is likely to be swamped by UK migrants coming back to the country.

“We keep talking about an increase in immigration if we leave, but I don’t see a massive impact in that respect. We’ve got 52,000 EU nationals working in the National Health Service. Who is going to fulfil their jobs if they leave the UK?

“Our local farmers get subsidies from Europe and the aerospace and technological industries will be affected by uncertainty if we leave. This is something that affects a wide range of issues locally. We are stronger in Europe.”

Although Prime Minister David Cameron is pushing hard for a ‘remain’ vote, veteran Hitchin & Harpenden MP and former cabinet minister Peter Lilley takes a different view: “I love Europe, and in 1975 I campaigned to keep us in the Common Market. But Europe is not the EU, and the EU is not the same as the Common Market.

“This referendum is about democracy and prosperity. In a democracy, if the government fails to deliver prosperity the people can chuck it out, but the EU is not like that. Its government – the Commission – is unelected, and you can’t vote it out.

“This is our opportunity to take back control of our laws (around half our laws originate in Brussels), our money (we could spend our £10 billion net contribution to the EU on the NHS) and our borders – we should be able to decide how many, with what skills and from where people come.

“This is not a choice between status quo and change. The EU is moving towards a centralised European state – its original objective.

“If we remain, we will be under pressure to adopt the Euro, join Schengen, and become part of this European state – just like Texas is part of the USA. If we leave we can be more like Canada – trading freely with our neighbours, but free to make our own laws, spend our own money, and make our own decisions on war and peace.”

7 comments

  • Sorry M8 I can't take you seriously when you're in 'Derek' mode could you switch to the Bertweeb account..

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    Bob

    Wednesday, June 22, 2016

  • If thats the case Bob wouldnt remain be vote delete vote delete vote as well? After all its them that started the facts and figures exaggeration war.

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    Derek

    Tuesday, June 21, 2016

  • Must be one of those polls where you can vote then delete cookies, vote again delete cookies, vote again delete cookies, vote again delete cookies..yeah yeah footieboy there's loads of those on the internet. Formula One has a saying...when the flag drops, the bull***ite stops!!!

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    Bob

    Tuesday, June 21, 2016

  • I’m voting out, for the sake of my ancestors and the future generations unseen, also becuase this green land will soon be a grey land with every gap taken to house the unwanted. It amazes me how the Greens can’t see this and the damage it will do, that just to cope atm we will have to dig up swaths of the UK and that’s without Turkey etc. joining. Democracy has been earned and should never be surrendered to unelected people who only care about themselves ... Therich just want to get richer off our backs, but they are in for a shock, the largest online poll as of 2062016 138000 + votes with 81% for leave and before you say, its not a 'backed' poll for either side its just a poll on the net. VOTE OUT (and dont forget your black pen just in case David has a rubber handy

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    Footieman

    Tuesday, June 21, 2016

  • To me it is all very simple - EU law takes precedence over anything Westminster decides. I can vote for or against my MP, but cannot vote for or against the European Commission, yet they can and do make laws that affect me. This is not democracy, is is dictatorship, and the sooner we get out the better.

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    Adrian Chatt

    Tuesday, June 21, 2016

  • Well I agree with MG75 how dare those Germans come over here after we beat them in the war and support our dying motor industry and employ tens of thousands of British workers in proper manufacturing jobs with decent wages, the absolute bloomin cheek of them I agree MG...vote remain that'll teach 'em!!!

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    Bob

    Tuesday, June 21, 2016

  • Yes. It was made up long ago, by all those that gave service to, & died for, their country, to stop the UK becoming part of a giant euro-state, ruled by one council, with Germany at its head.

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    LTG75

    Tuesday, June 21, 2016

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